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MarkB
03-27-2009, 05:16 AM
Last week I bought the Saitek Pro Throttle Quad. I already had throttles on the CH Yoke but wanted to expand for twin engines plus add reverse thrust for the Twotter for the icefield missions. I thought as the Saitek is only £45 I'd buy one to test, and if happy I'd buy a second when funds permit.

Hardware:
The way you can mount it to the desk is like a G-Clamp and allows for different orientations, even above your head (if you have shelf or similar to clamp it too). You can also configure it to mount on top of the desk or in front of the desk. I opted for in front. It gives a better more realistic feel to the position plus you're not reaching for them.It also comes with extra throttle, Prop and Mixture knobs for configurations and a 'bar' type to connect all three levers together as one.

Setup:
It took me a while to set up, the first disappointment was that the reverse thrust are actually switches under the throttle levers. So, when to bring the level to zero you push them past the stop and they hit a switch. Unfortunately in FSX there is no way to assign a switch to reverse thrust! I found a work around of assigning the switch to Decrease Thrust in the assignments with a repeat. Now when I push the lever passed the stops and the switch engages and the thrust decrease and enages the reserve thrust. THis works rather well and the reverse thrust comes in gradually and you can push the lever forward (disenging the switches) at the required amount.

There are also 3 rocker switches on the front of the throttle allowing 6 extra swich assignments. I've assigned these to engine starters for twin engine aircraft but not sure what to assign the remaining 4 too.

The second issue I had was USB ports. When I tested the throttle I only had that plugged in. My mother bought me the Saitek Pro Panel for Christmas but it was still in the box unused...This was the time to set it up! Big problem being that with the TrackIR, CH Yoke, CH Pedels, Panel, mouse and now throttles I'd run out of USB ports.

Luckily I had bough a USB hub from a £1 shop the week before and pulled them in. Problems where:

Panel needs the 5v from the USB, the hub doesn't supply this
TrackIR wouldn't work through it (device not recongised)
The Z axis on the throttle was reading as the X axis, so the mixture and prop lever where one and the same

So, tip of the day, don't buy cheap USB hubs. I now have a better 7 port powered hub that cost me £20. Everything fitted and work fine.

Conclusion:
I'm going to buy another throttle when I have the money. It's well built and easy to set up once you know about the switches. I have bought a full version of FSUIPC though to allow me to set it differently for different aircraft. EG I have it set for T,P,M on the Cessna and T,T,P on the Twotter. The extra 6 switches allows more expansion and combined with the Panel I hardly touch the keyboard for funtions.

Pete C
03-27-2009, 09:45 AM
I've had the throttle quadrant for some time, but have never been able to set prop pitch with it, although I tried allsorts of so called 'fixes', and sent a couple of emails to Saitek support asking for their for help. Their response was conspicuous by it's absence.

I eventually set the levers up to provide Throttle, Flaps, and Trim and and I use the buttons to provide changes to radio settings etc.

MarkB
03-27-2009, 10:07 AM
I set the prop with mine no problems Pete. The only time I did have problems with it is when I had it in the dodgy cheap USB Hub and instead of reading the levers as:
Throttle - X Axis
Prop - Y Axis
Mixture - Z Axis

It was reading:
Throttle - X Axis
Prop - Y Axis
Mixture - X Axis

Once I took it out of the hub this stopped.

THe only other problem I had was the levers where reading as 25% when they where fully closed. I fixed that with the Sensivity I think (or Null).

Pete C
03-27-2009, 10:20 AM
mm !! I might have another go, but I've got used to it now, especially the trim lever. I find I have excellent trim sensitivities through it.

MarkB
03-27-2009, 10:27 AM
mm !! I might have another go, but I've got used to it now, especially the trim lever. I find I have excellent trim sensitivities through it.


Thats given me an idea, I can use my (now unused) CH Yoke throttle levers for the trim.....

eyelleye
03-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Thanks for the review. I've got a full compliment of the CH stuff (yoke, pedals, throttle set), but keep eyeing the saitek stuff as a replacement for it. I've had issues with devices not being recognized by a hub before as well, but it never quite dawned on me that it was because the hub wasn't supplying enough juice. Even though both are/were powered hubs, still have issues with things not being recognized. I should pick up one of the larger 7+ port versions and use the 4 I actually need. Great idea!

Dusty
03-27-2009, 02:07 PM
I used to have issues with my Saitek throttle quadrants...they would be real touch or lose their assignments altogether, but then I got FSUIPC and set all the control buttons and axis' with that an never had a problem again.

Dusty

Norry
04-16-2009, 09:47 AM
Mark, Thanks for the heads up on the need for a USB to be a powered one, I have just installed the full Saitek kit (Pedals, Throttle and Control wheel) but the only way I can get the usb into the computer is by having the computer in a position that is rather in the way. I am going out tomorrow to buy a USB hub, I will make sure it is a good quality powered one.

Norry

MarkB
04-18-2009, 03:19 AM
Hi Norry,

Make sure it is a USB 2.0 compatible one too! I'm still having problems using it this Pete Dowson's FSUIPC addon but within FS assignments itself it's fine.

I think the problem is FSUIPC itself so at the moment I have to re-assign the levers depending on the aircfraft I'm flying (eg I find it better to have two throttles and 1 prop pitch on the Twotter).

Regards

Mark

Pete C
06-13-2009, 07:12 AM
I bought myself the Saitek Yoke a couple of days ago, which also contained a throttle quadrant. I now have the yoke, 2 throttle quadrants, a GoFlight switch panel , a VRInsight control panel, CH Rudder pedals and TrackIR4. I've got more switches than I know what to do with, and the keyboard is now rendundant as far as FS is concerned and is stowed under the desk.

On the yoke I've got all three axis trim tabs, Teamspeak and ATC PTT buttons, plus the POV hat switch.

On the throttle quadrants I have zoom in/out, view switch, parking brake, water rudder switch, mag switches, pitot heat, fuel pumps and starter switches. Slides are configured for prop, mixture and throttle. I've still got 4 switches vacant.

On the GoFlight switch panel I have, battery, alternator, avionics, beacon light, nav light, strobe light, landing light and cabin light.

Finally on the VRInsight panel I have flap and gear switches, autopilot suite, comms panel and Nav panel.

All that and my flying is still C**p. :laugh: